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On the Peloton Strive Score

Before I begin discussing the Strive Score, let me note that I’m not a doctor or any other type of accredited authority. I’m just an ordinary Pelotoner who likes data. This blog should not be used in place of advice from a real medical expert.

On April 30th, 2021, Peloton announced a new heart rate-related metric across all workouts. They call it “Strive Score” and here’s how they describe it:

Strive Score is a personal, non-competitive metric that measures your performance in every workout—from equipment to the floor. All you need is a compatible heart rate monitor…and some good old-fashioned motivation.

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The Holy Grail, not just for Peloton but for all on-and-offline fitness programs is finding some way to quantify effort in a way that is meaningful regardless of your personal physiology and fitness level. This sort of universal measurement has so far eluded sports science, and is a huge barrier in the automation of any sort of personalized training program. Some day, when science has evolved sufficiently, we will look back at the sort of metrics we use today as being very crude, but nevertheless today this is what we have to work with.

Peloton’s best metric in this regard is the good ol’ FTP number. FTP, Functional Threshold Power, is a number which is arrived at by actual experimentation on the athlete. Basically, to find your FTP score, you work as hard as you possibly can for a period of time, and however much work you can do (a multiplier might be involved depending on how long your test is) becomes your FTP. Your workout intensity is then based on that number (10 minutes at 80% FTP, 5 minutes at 110% of FTP, etc). Periodically, you re-test to recalibrate, and use the new FTP number as the basis of future workouts.

The Strive Score explained

Many people do not want to endure the FTP test, and that’s understandable. Unfortunately, if you’re not going to be using a benchmark that was at least arrived at using real-world data about you individually, you really have no choice but to fall back to something that is far more generic. This is where heart rate comes into the picture. Heart rate correlates to effort, of course. Your heart rate is slowest during most phases of sleep, and is highest when doing strenuous work such as running or climbing stairs. We’re all individuals when it comes to how quickly our heart rate increases under stress and how quickly it recovers when resting, but it’s generally safe to say that you’re generally working harder when your heart rate is higher, and working less hard when it is lower.

The Strive Score seeks to quantify heart rate over time. Even sitting still you’ll generate a strive score value over time (at a rate of about 0.0048 points per second), as long as your heart is beating. The longer you go, the higher the score rises (so a ten minute effort at constant heart rate will yield double the score of a five minute effort at the same heart rate). Raising your heart rate above a certain percentage of your maximum heart rate* triggers a bonus multiplier (starting at 2x for heart rates above 65% of maximum).

Peloton’s heart rate zones. Zone 1: < 65% max, Zone 2: 65%-75%, Zone 3: 75%-85%, Zone 4: 85%-95%, and Zone 5: > 95% maximum

Since the heart rate multiplier and time are the only variables, it is fairly easy to calculate the theoretical minimums and maximums of the Strive Score, and they are as follows**:

MinutesMinimumMaximum
51.411.6
102.923.2
154.334.8
205.846.4
308.769.6
4513104.4
6017.4139.2
9026.1208.8

Note that the strive score is incremented every second, so you will not be able to hit the max score for an interval unless your heart rate is the maximum zone going into it.

Reading the table: The table above lists the minimum and maximum attainable values for the indicated duration. For example, if your heart is beating, you cannot get less than a 1.4 score in five minutes of exercise, because you will be in zone 1 the entire time. If your heart rate is in zone 4 or above for the entire five minutes, your five-minute maximum would be 11.6 points. If you effort is not strictly zone 1 or zone 4+, your strive score will be somewhere between these minimums and maximums, depending on how many seconds you spend in each zone.

Strive Score or FTP, which is best?

I think I can say without fear of contradiction that the FTP test result, if arrived at after a valid test, is the best available metric of fitness available to us. It’s what I use to track my own fitness, and I rely on it more than I do heart rate or Strive Score.

Another nice thing about FTP is that it is not a Peloton concept, but rather it is used in other areas of sport. Zwift has a very nice feature to calculate FTP, for example.

All that said in favor of the FTP, the Strive Score has one very intriguing feature that FTP lacks, and that it is intended to be an indicator of effort rather than an indicator of achievement. As your fitness improves, it actually becomes easier and easier to hit your FTP numbers (which is why you need to re-test and re-calibrate periodically), because FTP is a measure of achievement, and when you’re fitter you can achieve more (or, in this case, achieve the same with less effort). Strive Score, as a measure of effort, should be less affected by your relative fitness (though it is, to some extent). For people seeking to improve their fitness, and who are looking to get some sort of feedback that they’re putting in the right amount of effort (at least, as compared to other attempts), the Strive Score could be a useful metric for that sort of information.

* Maximum heart rate is estimated using age.

** The per-second strive point value of 0.00483 was arrived at through experimentation. Please let me know if you get markedly different results, and I will try to refine this value. I confess that I expected to find it to be a “rounder” number, such as 0.005, but it doesn’t actually seem to be quite that high.

Comments

6 responses to “On the Peloton Strive Score”

  1. Terri Avatar
    Terri

    I think what is missing here is the explanation on what strive score is too high?

  2. Dara Schaefer Avatar
    Dara Schaefer

    I think you may be correct that the actual per-second strive point value is 0.005 and that your value of 0.00483 is low.

    I was looking at my numbers- and for example my 20 min ftp test was 46.6 (0.2 higher than your max and I was is zone 4&5 94% of the time (18:56) with 59 seconds in zone 3 and 3 seconds in zone 2. (Yes 2 seconds are missing)

  3. C Avatar
    C

    I believe that the chart will give you the maximum strive score for a particular time interval. So if you did a 30 min workout the highest strive score you could get would be 69.6

  4. Michael Antonsen Avatar
    Michael Antonsen

    My buddy just did a 30-minute ride with a 71.4 Strive Score. He spent 3 seconds in Zone 2, 19 seconds in Zone 3, 1:35 in Zone 4 and 28 minutes in Zone 5 (3 seconds not accounted for).
    Using the 0.005/sec base point factor, we get:
    Zone 2 = 3 sec x 2x score x 0.005 = 0.03 Strive score
    Zone 3 = 19 sec x 4x score x 0.005 = 0.38 Strive score
    Zone 4 = 95 sec x 8x score x 0.005 = 3.8 Strive score
    Zone 5 = 1,680 sec x 8x score x 0.005 = 67.2 Strive score
    Calculated Strive score is 71.41, which aligns with his recorded score in the Peloton App of 71.4

    I’d use 0.005 as the multiplier and not assume there are “bonus” points for entering Zone 5.

  5. Gareth Seltzer Avatar
    Gareth Seltzer

    Honestly, I still have no clue what it really is. It is defined using other criteria that I don’t understand. The per second arrive point value etc plus graphs which suggest they are arrive numbers but have no heading so are they? The min/max numbers above… are those Strive min/max’s? This is what I know, I work out at a fast walk for 38 minutes, I’m 60 and a heart patient. I got a strive Score of 21.4. I don’t know WTF that means other than it seems, that I am pathetic. Yet I have perspiration running down my face and it was one of my best workouts yet through recovery. But I don’t know what it what it means.

    1. Brygs Avatar
      Brygs

      Hi, Gareth. I just added a “reading this table” section to hopefully explain more. In the end, like a lot of other things in the fitness metrics world, these things useful mostly for just comparing one of your workouts against the others. Since strive score is attempting to measure effort and not output, its value (if it has value!) is in trying to help you set a goal of some amount of effort rather than setting goals based on absolute athletic performance.

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